What size is a CSP? This simple question masks the complexity of the CSP size issue across the various councils. We currently have CSP samples for about 170 of the 242 Councils and have measured all of these trying to find the best options to match these patch sizes without making individual dies for the them all. At present, that is a list of 34 different known sizes (height, width, side angle, top radius, corner radius). We understand that BSA used to have a defined standard for the CSP, but many Councils have gone their own way and significantly departed from the 2 inch tall by 5 inch wide standard and this no longer appears to be talked about.
What size is CSP hook-and-loop from The Goose’s Cache, LLC? The standard CSP that we sell and include in Scout Shirt Packs and Leader Shirt Packs is 2 inches tall by 5 inches wide. It has a 60 degree angle between the two vertical sides and the radius of the top arc is 4.2 inches. This is a good fit for the following Council: 18, 104, 107, 127, 218, 220, 227, 230, 250, 251, 341, 397, 456, 491, 500, 558, 559, 562, 567, 590, 637, 773 and others.
What if my CSP is a different size? We are working on an answer to address at least part of this problem. In the meantime, please contact us in advance of placing your order if you require a CSP other than our standard size, as we may have something available for you. We cannot guarantee we will ever have a hook-and-loop set available for every CSP size just due to the sales volume required to cover the costs of production for literally hundreds of different CSPs.
What other sizes do you have available? At present, we have dies for the following additional sizes which will get fairly close for some of the non-standard councils:
2252 – 2.2 inches tall x 5.2 inches wide (Councils: 27, 31, 53, 66, 81, 93, 326, 364, 640D, 694 and others)
2350 – 2.3 inches tall x 5.0 inches wide (Councils: 91, 165, 198, 306, 449, 553, 690 and others)
C087 – North Florida Council (2.4 inches tall x 5.1 inches wide)
C777 – Washington Crossing Council (2.5 inches tall x 5.0 inches wide)
C060 – Pathway to the Rockies Council (Template Cut: 2.5 inches tall x 5.0 inches wide)
What do I need to know about these CSP hook-and-loop shapes? We cannot guarantee these shapes will be an exact fit for your particular patch. Other than variations in overall size difference in the the top radius, side angle and any corner radius treatments ultimately mean that almost every CSP is unique, but some are very close to each other. While we do have a large collection we have measured, if patches are special editions or even sourced from other vendors, this can mean the CSP size can vary even across one Council.
How can I help? If your Council has a CSP size that differs from our standard, consider talking to your local Scout Shop about carrying our products. Increased requests and sales of a particular CSP shape enable us to cover the costs of creating these unique dies. Additionally, we will be seeking to purchase the additional 74 CSPs that are not carried through the National Scout Shop so that we a have a more complete collection and can obtain the measurements we need. If you have information on where any of these can be obtained, we would appreciate if you would let us know.